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“hold off, So is this a romantic date?” Podcast Episode 209: Bottoming with Chingy | Autostraddle

  • By: Robert Bartis
  • Published: December 20, 2024

Let us make some noise your bottoms in the home! (It really is me personally, underneath at home.) Bottom lifestyle is becoming very anything™ on the web as of late! But what will it actually suggest is a bottom? The reason why contains the society made the decision bottoming is actually just being nervous to inquire of for what you want? And just how does an individual start choosing when they fancy bottoming?!

With all these concerns rattling around our heads, requiring responses, Drew and I also realized there clearly was only 1 person we can easily visit for a rounded, enthusiastic conversation about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA underneath Supreme. Chingy is just one of the most readily useful folks i understand creating and tweeting these days, and as a bottom myself personally, Im recognized to call her my chief. Chingy allows us to tease away just what it way to be a bottom, exactly why she dislikes “smol bean” bottom part society, the human body as gap, as well as your human anatomy as

total

. It is an extremely beautiful conversation, easily perform say so me! Please know i know that I state “gorgeous” around three thousand instances this event, I am also getting help for my personal problem. (the disorder is actually talking like 57 yr old white homosexual man.)

And! Recently’s game entails me guessing if difficult plots Drew defines are part of a film or an aspiration she had circa 2006. It is hard!


PROGRAM NOTES

+ Read Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow the woman
on Twitter
and
IG
!

+Here is a summary of every flicks that Drew utilized in her game:


  • The Seventh Seal

    (1937)

  • Bringing-up Child

    (1938)


  • Pierrot ce Fou


    (1965)

  • Ebony Swan

    (2010)

+Watch Anna Faris perform the finest work of her profession in

Smiley Face!


+Let

Shohreh Aghdashloo chat one to rest while clothed as Chrisjen


Avasarala


from

The Expanse

since you have earned that.


+Cindy Wilson of B52s is fairly hot and frankly? “Love Shack” nevertheless whips!


+
Robert Mitchum
, stone-cold fox.



EPISODE


Chingy

: I’ve just already been bottoming since I have was actually, I don’t know, dating back to i could remember.


Drew

: Cue Rags to Riches from

Goodfellas.


Chingy

: As far back as i could keep in mind, I always planned to end up being a bottom, no, but particular

[intro plays]


Drew

: Hi, I’m Drew.


Christina

: I’m Christina.


Drew

: Thank you for visiting

Wait, Is It a romantic date

?


Christina

:

Hold off, So Is This a romantic date?

is an Autostraddle podcast centered on the one, really the only the most significant concern your instances: Wait, Is This a night out together?


Drew

: And, wow, i truly only froze up here.


Christina

: I became like, oh shit, I happened to be meant to say anything! [laughs]


Drew

: i am really fast for the banter, my head merely… The reality is that I found myself checking out over my game records, which we aren’t at but because we still need to introduce our selves. Very, I’m going to make an effort to stay dedicated to one job at the same time.


Christina

: Focus upwards!


Drew

: My name is Drew Gregory, Im a writer for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans woman.


Christina

: Hi, i’m called Christina Tucker, forgot my personal last name for a hot moment, no big deal. I am in addition an author at Autostraddle alongside locations on the web, a podcaster, a gay black woman. Which is type it, puppy, that’s myself.


Drew

: i really like it. Okay, today we-


Christina

: Now the online game.


Drew

: are we able to have fun with the game?


Christina

: are we able to get to the video game? I am able to reveal’re thrilled, I am able to let you know’re only vibrating.


Drew

: Thus, I’ve been maintaining an aspiration diary since 2007, as well as the idea for this video game is actually-


Christina

: I didn’t know this about yourself!


Drew

: Yes, it isn’t as updated now, we always write-down all my hopes and dreams now it is only once one thing truly sticks. But, the assumption within this online game is actually, am I explaining the plot of a dream I’d while I ended up being a teenager, or have always been I describing the story of a movie that we appreciated once I was actually a teenager?


Christina

: Oh man, okay.


Drew

: Thus, just how it’s going to go is we’ll constantly describe it as an aspiration along with the most important person. So, if it was actually

Superstar Wars,

I would wind up as, I’m in space and I also’m combating within a rebellion, so there’s an evil  guy who’s dressed in a black robot suit and it also works out he is my dad. Which is how I’ll describe it, the manner by which we explain fantasies, but sometimes it will be an aspiration, often it’ll end up being from a movie. Prepared?


Christina

: I’m something, I don’t know that i am ready, but let’s rock. Let’s see just what I am able to perform here.


Drew

: Okay, I’m on a coastline and I also see this weird man dressed in black. The guy informs me that he’s Death and we can take advantage of a-game to decide easily reside or if perhaps the guy requires myself. I manage to get away, but every-where I go, individuals are ill and that I feel dying continues to be after me.The merely pleased part is when I fulfill a theater troupe and they’re a lot of enjoyment.


Christina

: This,I think, is a dream.


Drew

: This would be Ingmar Bergman’s

The Seventh Seal

from 1957.


Christina

: this will be gonna be an actual gotcha on CT’s traditional flick understanding, because everything I know that Drew, within puberty, wasn’t doing was actually seeing films that I’m going to acknowledge. Now, I’m kind of hoping that I have seen none of them. I believe which will be more enjoyable for my situation.


Drew

: the next one, i am ending up in my loved ones and a few Italian US gangsters. Among the gangsters requires that I give over some money, but my loved ones and I also been able to break free. We try to escape through all of this snowy terrain, traveling we fulfill an actress and relate with the girl. We result in a suburb. I believe we will start an innovative new existence with each other until she requires us to a big mansion, and I realize it belongs to the gangster. It was all a trap, the gangster comes and there’s a confrontation. I kill him, the fantasy stops with the actress carrying out a musical number.


Christina

: So is this a film?


Drew

: this will be a dream I had in 2008.


Christina

: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, i assume i must keep in mind that it really is 2000, it’s old school Drew brain. That’s what i must keep in mind.


Drew

: In addition similar, just what films ended up being I viewing during the time and just how much performed that influence my personal fantasies?


Christina

: Well, yeah, obviously quite a lot!


Drew

: A fun fact is that I was really, i did not integrate this because I was thinking this could have out, nevertheless the gangster was Tony Soprano because I became viewing

The Sopranos

in 2008. Very, which is a fun small reality. Okay, next one, i’ve an important assignment, but this hot girl shows up and starts sidetracking me. I wish to be together with her, but I also really need to get could work accomplished, therefore I tell the lady to exit. She keeps following myself. Suddenly, a leopard appears inside my place and that I need certainly to spend the remaining fantasy trying to get the leopard. I am nonetheless truly anxious, We never finish could work, but no less than the lady is hot.


Christina

: it’s as an aspiration of yours, this has to get a Drew dream.


Drew

: This is Howard Hawks’

Bringing-up Baby

from 1938.


Christina

: No, but that’s a dream of yours, this is the most Drew dream I’ve have you ever heard. Now at this time, I’m merely will be spinning movie background, to match my personal whims.


Drew

: Great, i enjoy that. Okay, i am at an event and I do not love any individual there. At long last, I see this woman, I once had a crush on and in addition we decide to keep with each other. We head to her house, but they are chased down by this band of men who happen to be wanting to kill the lady. We find yourself on a beach also it seems like we’re going to end up being ok through to the males come across you. She ends up being into this other guy, and so I simply take cartoonish dynamite and determine to blow myself personally up


Christina

: Film.


Drew

: this is exactly! This really is Jean Luc Goddard’s

Pierrot ce Fou

, from 1965.


Christina

: never have observed, but that seems like a ding dang film if you ask me.


Drew

: Great, I like it. There is a narration describing an odd watercraft like design which is impractical to destroy. I’m going on a retreat nearby the construction, the retreat is kind of theater associated, type of religious. You will find a crush on this girl at retreat, but she’s got a boyfriend. Amid the shows and traditions, there are plenty of drama between me and also this woman and her boyfriend, it finishes with me by yourself. There have been a sequence disclosing the ship structure is actually impossible to wreck because a mechanical arm fixes it inside night.


Christina

: that would be something in so many ways, i’ll say movie once more, you need to?


Drew

: it’s an aspiration from 2011, that did have narration from somebody else, you know, it happens!


Christina

: This is really good promo having a dream log, because i’m think its great was enjoyable easily could bear in mind my dreams in this manner.


Drew

: no one really likes whenever you describe the hopes and dreams for them. I do however, and I also’m the pal, if you desire to jot down your own fantasies and let me know, i might like to read about all of them.


Christina

: Okay, which is great to know.


Drew

: You will find two a lot more.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: I’m in a beautiful yard with several buddies, everyone seem to be waking up from being drugged. We’re compelled to bathe in an acid that empties pigment and then we end up being gothic and blue-eyed. The people responsible begin training us to eliminate, as it happens this one has been run by a crazy dictator, we reject acquiring entirely brainwashed. Absolutely this girl indeed there i’ve a crush on and I convince their to leave with me, while escaping I get shot and killed, nevertheless the woman becomes out. When she makes the prison, she understands we’re in a forest generally there’s nowhere commit.


Christina

: Film.


Drew

: That would be the most important fantasy in my fantasy journal from, I mentioned, “2007.” That it is 2006.


Christina

: Wow.


Drew

: i believed it was interesting that we pass away when you look at the fantasy, nevertheless other individual goes on on. The good news is, there’s some odd gender material happening truth be told there, and that I’m browsing need to think of that one for some time.


Christina

: surely accomplish that.


Drew

: Okay, We have another.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: I’ve been considering the chance to be a ballerina, my mother insists i will not manage to do it. There’s this other girl in tv show exactly who i do believe is actually hot, but I’m worried she’s going to change myself. I am battling in rehearsal, but end upwards making with all the lady, we connect. This really is hot, but personally i think myself losing control, we go back to the dancing tv series. My body system seems to be morphing into another thing, I’m stressed that I’m going to ruin.


Christina

: this is certainly a motion picture.


Drew

: Very,

Ebony Swan

.


Christina

: Yes, that’s

Ebony Swan

, certainly.


Drew

: Have you ever viewed

Ebony Swan

? That was one I thought you have viewed.


Christina

: I have seen

Dark Swan

, I… Fun fact, we continued a romantic date with one to see

Ebony Swan

.


Drew

: Wow.


Christina

: Just direct situations I did.


Drew

: the thing that was that like?


Christina

: crazy, it actually was unusual.


Drew

: Did you just like the movie? Performed he like flick?


Christina

: i do believe, I experienced already seen it, I think I was like, “Why don’t we go view it once again.” I think, I happened to be really pro

Dark Swan,

and also for right heterosexual factors, definitely.


Drew

: Sure, okay.


Christina

: And, he had been like, “that has been unusual.” And that I was actually want, “Oh well, we’re not gonna continue to go out.”


Drew

: Wow, really If only him ideal, i am hoping he is somewhere successful. Thank-you for playing the game with me.


Christina

: Wow, i am very glad I went two for nevertheless numerous we performed thereon.


Drew

: Not terrible.


Christina

: perhaps not bad.


Drew

: You did much better than Elise did once I desired to see if this was a functional game that could operate, and she was actually my personal guinea-pig. Thus, she just got one correct.


Christina

: reasonable enough.


Drew

: Should we move on to the primary topic of the few days?


Christina

: Why don’t we enter it, why don’t we fully grasp this unique guest in.


Drew

: Well, i do want to 1st say that all of our major topic regarding the week is actually bottoming, so we could only have one very unique visitor.


Christina

: It is only 1 individual.


Drew

: Can you kindly present your self?


Chingy

: Hi, I’m Chingy Nea, otherwise known as The Gay Chingy. Im a Writer, Filmmaker, and gasian fabric dyke muppet. I will be additionally The usa’s first base.


Christina

: Yes, In my opinion once we were talking about subject areas so we’re like, “We could explore bottoming so there’s practically only one individual we’re able to have in the pod to take action, there is only 1 one who is quite actually the Supreme.”


Chingy

: thanks for knowing, it feels good to own your wonder acknowledged, thank-you


Christina

: Yes, and you also’ve accomplished great work, and right here the audience is identifying it.


Drew

: i do want to know once you feel like you turned into America’s greatest base. Whenever was that a word and a label and an identity you actually conducted onto?


Chingy

: Well, and so I generally just state, “i am underneath Supreme.” Because, which cares about The usa?


Drew

: Certain.


Christina

: Fair enough.


Chingy

: Yeah, I think that I always was really effective in bottoming, then again in 2017 or something like that, we went to a play party that has been simply for fem top sadists beating me right up for six to seven hrs straight, plus it was just me personally, and that I was like, “Oh, I’m ideal which is actually ever been.” After which, In my opinion from that point, i simply kept increasing and being, wow, i am thus fun to view. Wow, I’m very entertaining as a bottom, this will be wow, everybody just who gets to peak me is so lucky. And, it went from that point, i believe, then we typed a write-up called I’m a far greater Bottom Than You. Here’s Exactly Why. It had been style of a manifesto, it actually was a bottom manifesto.


Christina

: indeed, can verify.


Chingy

: And, lots of people have said, “It’s altered the way they evaluate intercourse.” And, I really like that a lot. It is the one article back at my site that I written indeed there. I composed at

Vice

,

Teenage Vogue

,

Vulture

—

Autostraddle

had been 1st destination I published, in fact. But yeah, that is the one web log to my m4m websites, if you would like test it.


Christina

: I favor a strong brand name, I favor understanding a brand, and I think that’s actually attractive, only, brand name handling of a bottomy your self. I think, that is really breathtaking to see.


Chingy

: many thanks, i acquired my very first authorship opportunity at

Autostraddle

because I found myself authoring getting a base, being poly, and being really deep into getting a leather-based dyke. And because next, i have began to come up with a number of other stuff, but being bottom great just style of is the one through collection of almost everything.


Christina

: Yes.


Drew

: I also feel just like you’re a rather effective bottom in addition to in the way which you come up with, and mention, and I also think experience bottoming that you are really productive. Whereas, In my opinion there’s lots of the queer area, perhaps, especially the lesbian area, that possibly thinks about bottoming as… I don’t know-


Chingy:

Passivity

.


Christina

: Mm-hmm

(Affirmative)

.


Drew

: Yeah.


Chingy

: Yeah, we frequently declare that there is way less bottoms than people think are bottoms. I believe there’s an improvement between being a bottom and simply being unsure of or seeking what you would like. I do believe those are two completely various things that people conflate.


Christina

: i’d need agree, In addition believe the way you talk about bottoming is actually, What i’m saying is, why don’t we just state it, such significantly less disturbing versus way so many people explore getting a bottom or recognize with bottom part tradition. Because, i actually do believe just what lots of people say explicitly or non clearly is merely, i will be sluggish and do not care and attention accomplish any kind of action, activity, et-cetera, i’d like circumstances done to myself. And, easily must seek that in in whatever way, that affects my personal thoughts. And, you are great and powerful at getting, they are the points that i’d like, bring these to me and that I will rock your own world. Which gorgeous in my experience.


Chingy

: Thank you, after all, that’s what you have to do to-be proficient at just one thing, you have to put your self around and try to make mistakes to get harm slightly, and, I’m not sure, study on it.


Christina

: In my opinion that is good information, frankly.


Chingy

: I merely already been bottoming since I was, I’m not sure, dating back to I am able to recall. [laughs]


Drew

: Cue “Rags to Riches” from

Goodfellas

.


Chingy

: Yeah, dating back to i could recall, i wanted to be a bottom. No, but variety of, once I ended up being 13 or 14, I was already looking at BDSM web pages and lesbian BDSM internet sites. Thus, I wasn’t under any delusions with what I happened to be pertaining to, I happened to be having women I dated in twelfth grade choke me personally aside, I understood the things I wanted. And therefore, that amount of consciousness recently offered me personally a number of years to know what I want and figure out how to obtain it.


Christina

: Gorgeous, Drew, provide myself your emotions on bottoming.


Drew

: Well, I’m in fact truly excited to talk about this because I feel like in 2019 {when I|as I|while

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